Did no one mention that the iPhone 16e integrates C1's first self-developed modem-baseband?
by Poster
Feb 20, 2025
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Isn't this proper, using entry-level users as mice to test self-developed basebands?
If there is national subsidy, quite a few people will buy it, right?
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Anonymous4992 Feb 20, 2025Can power consumption really be greatly reduced?
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Anonymous7835 Feb 20, 2025@ Anonymous7215 # 15 See how Qualcomm collects patent fees. Just because 😂 doesn't use Qualcomm's things doesn't mean it doesn't need to pay patent fees to Qualcomm. 😂
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Anonymous7835 Feb 20, 2025@ Anonymous1269 # 7 The baseband of the 16 series is not X75 but X71. It seems that even if the iPhone uses Qualcomm in the future, it will not use the most advanced baseband released the previous year
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Anonymous1919 Feb 20, 2025Power consumption is very important, but the first generation still wait. It will definitely get better after a large number of samples in a few years.
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Anonymous230 Feb 20, 2025This thing is obviously testing the waters with low-end phones But Cook often likes to do this. At the beginning, the M1 was released first by air and then added specifications to the pro model to continue doing it If 17 is used in the future, the specifications may be improved?
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Anonymous9101 Feb 20, 2025C1 or external baseband?
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Anonymous1045 Feb 20, 2025I can't say this thing without a real machine test
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Anonymous257 Feb 20, 2025The power consumption is much lower than that of Qualcomm. The battery life of 26 hours is enough.
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Anonymous7778 Feb 20, 2025@ Anonymous9101 # 26 Maybe because the A18 chip has been finalized, if the test effect is good, maybe the A19 will be integrated...
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Anonymous7837 Feb 20, 2025Will there be a return maintenance mechanism?
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Anonymous7838 Feb 20, 2025@ Anonymous3354 Indeed, it's a bit cheating
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Anonymous5843 Feb 20, 2025If it can be as successful as m1, it will be steady
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Anonymous7839 Feb 20, 2025The iPhone 16 uses an X71 baseband that Qualcomm has not publicly released. It seems to have been upgraded, but it is actually estimated to be a customized X70 model. I feel that it is just to make way for the C1. So as not to widen the performance gap of the latest X75 too much.
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Anonymous2038 Feb 20, 2025@ Anonymous1777 Qualcomm needs to adapt to N multiple models, but Apple does not, it only needs to tune its own devices
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Anonymous6802 Feb 20, 2025What most scenarios require is not high speed Elevator room, underground parking lot, subway, Spring Festival travel rush station, peak tourist hours, These commonly used scenarios will be clearly perceived only when you can grab WiFi and improve signal stability. Otherwise, you can't scan the code, and you will be disconnected from receiving a call. Android and Huawei next door can be used to swipe
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Anonymous672 Feb 21, 2025Apple has turned the baseband back and forth several times, not optimistic about it
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Anonymous321 Feb 21, 2025I am quite looking forward to the performance of this baseband, waiting for disassembly and testing. The Qualcomm baseband used by Apple has always been at least one generation behind, and the 16 series seems to be two generations behind. At present, it is of little significance to simply look at the limit rate of the baseband. On the premise that the function and performance are not significantly lagging behind, if the energy efficiency is stronger, there are still merits, then it should be very practical to iterate after 2 or 3 generations
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Anonymous2703 Feb 21, 2025The following is a comparison of carrier network support: China Unicom 5G support: Full support for the main frequency band n78 (3.5 GHz) 4G coverage: Compatible with FDD-LTE Band 1/3/8 (domestic mainstream frequency band) 3G support: The basic version of WCDMA 2100MHz is retained, which can be used as a backup network in weak signal areas, but DC-HSDPA enhanced 3G is not supported (theoretical rate is limited). Applicable scenarios: Suitable for users who need 3G basic backup or are resident in cities, with optimal network compatibility. China Radio and Television 5G support: covers n28 (700MHz low frequency penetration) and n41 (2.6 GHz intermediate frequency), with significant coverage capabilities 4G support: dedicated Band 28 frequency band, collaboratively optimized with 5G frequency band 3G support: No traditional 3G network, need to rely on pure 4G/5G coverage Advantages: There is no historical standard compatibility burden, low-frequency 5G signal penetration is strong, but the user base is small, and coverage in some remote areas may not be perfect. China Mobile 5G support: only supports n41 frequency band (2.6 GHz), missing n79 frequency band (4.9 GHz, affecting hotspot area capacity) 4G support: Mainly TD-LTE Band 38/39/40/41 frequency bands, there are TDD timing synchronization problems, which may cause disconnection in weak signal areas such as basements 3G support: completely incompatible with TD-SCDMA standard Risk: If the user's area relies on n79 frequency band or historical 3G coverage, connection problems may occur. China Telecom 5G support: Full support for the main frequency band n78 (3.5 GHz) 4G support: FDD-LTE Band 1/3/5 (good city coverage) 3G support: CDMA2000 cannot be used at all, old users need to ensure that there is 4G/5G coverage in their area Shortcomings: Telecom 3G withdrew from the network earlier, and equipment relying on C1 baseband may have no signal at all in pure 3G areas. Summary Recommendations Give priority to China Unicom or Radio and Television: If you need to take into account network compatibility and coverage, China Unicom is suitable for mass users; Radio and television low-frequency 5G is suitable for rural or complex building environments. Mobile users should be cautious: the lack of n79 frequency band may affect the experience in high-density areas, and the stability in areas with weak signals is limited. Telecom users pay attention to 3G dating: they need to confirm in advance whether the local 4G/5G coverage is sufficient to avoid communication blind spots. I hope the above description can help to clearly compare the support differences of various operators!
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Anonymous2692 Feb 21, 2025@ Anonymous91 Why can't you take it hard?
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Anonymous321 Feb 21, 2025@ Anonymous2703 There is very little useful content in your long paragraph (the n79 frequency band is missing), and the rest is completely nonsense. It's like the sky is falling as if We Media did not support DC-HSDPA. You must know that China Unicom's DC-HSDPA was rarely covered back then (HSPA/+ is commonly used), and now the 3G signal is almost gone. This is especially true of mobile TD-SCDMA. There is nothing to keep about this thing, not to mention that I haven't seen a local TD-SCDMA signal since 2016. In addition, after the iPhone hardware of the Bank of China is independent of other versions, the network frequency band support is the lowest among all versions in the world. I don't know if 16e is the same. If so, it is more meaningful than the Japanese version that supports more frequency bands.