Is it possible for the Bank of China's iPhone + external area id to upload data to the cloud in Guizhou

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• Anonymous1788 May 20, 2025
  Ask if it is first, then ask why. Safety, where is Apple unsafe? Guizhou on the cloud? Or Mac OS? You'd better give a clear definition when you ask questions. What is safety? Then according to your definition of security = = not being censored by the state (would it be better to replace it with privacy? It has been turned over by various private companies, and are you still worried about this?) Classic cliche, what background (new era migrant workers) of yours deserves domestic scrutiny? To make that little money, you need to be specially vetted? After the five insurances and one housing fund, income tax, internal tax, mortgage, car loan and rent have been withdrawn, think about what capital is worth the state's efforts to review you. What is the reason for buying the foreign version? Cheap/features that need to be spayed.
• Anonymous1788 May 20, 2025
  Of course, the foreign version is not cheap now, so there is another reason left.
• Anonymous13154 May 20, 2025
  This issue has been discussed before,/t/670142 https://www.v2ex.com/t/670142? p = 1
• Anonymous1788 May 20, 2025
  If you have to say safety, please consider the safety of domestic products first (of course I don't specifically mean huawei). Microsoft/Apple products have many minor problems, and safety is very safe (your personal safety).
• Anonymous5962 May 20, 2025
  Don't worry about the word "security" there, what the poster expresses is concern for "privacy"
• Anonymous3073 May 20, 2025
  @ Anonymous13154 I quite agree with one of the answers in it. If you really care about security, you can actually choose people to use the US area in China and people to use the cloud in Guizhou in the United States. And, security and privacy are actually two different things. If you just care about privacy, you can actually go to Guizhou on the cloud. I don't think the privacy of current encryption technology can be leaked so easily. I might as well worry about being trolled and accidentally clicking something or something. And, in fact, security is not very useful for most people's mobile phones. What can you have in personal mobile phones? Of course, if you climb over the wall every day to see something, it's okay to be careful. That is, as I said, people use foreign services at home, and people use domestic services abroad. Can it still be grasped across borders? But don't think that big companies such as Apple and Google must be safe.
• Anonymous1788 May 20, 2025
  @ Anonymous5962 First, what the landlord said is to avoid domestic censorship. It's normal. I would think that the landlord is a spy or a related high-risk industry person. As a result, when I look at the guy, the programmer has nothing to say to say has nothing to do with security. Second, I talked about privacy.
• Anonymous1788 May 20, 2025
  @ Anonymous3073 is limited to the fact that people use foreign areas at home, because you may really never go to the United States for the rest of your life, but you'd better never go back to China for the rest of your life in a foreign country, otherwise you can get away with it without thinking of betraying national interests. Of course, if you are just working remotely to earn some money, which basically has nothing to do with national security/national reputation, it is really not recommended to use foreign services for this "security". There is no need to be too nervous, I really don't mess with you. Of course, if you use a domestic product (DJI orhuawei), you can mess with you if you really want to, whether intentionally or unintentionally.
• Anonymous1788 May 20, 2025
  The product in the latter sentence refers specifically to physical products, not network services.
• Anonymous3307 May 20, 2025
  First of all, all iCloud-related data in China will first pass through Guizhou on the cloud when transmitted, including foreign versions of devices. This is because the server in Guizhou on the cloud is Apple's CDN in China. As for whether it will be saved or not, it should depend on where your account belongs. As for whether your data will be decrypted or not, it depends on whether you use advanced data protection. If you are still uneasy about turning on advanced data protection on iCloud network disk, or worry that even if your account in other countries has been secretly saved, you can add a layer of Cryptomator or other forms of encryption (only on network disk).
• Anonymous12996 May 20, 2025
  What does @ Anonymous3307 mean by turning on Advanced Data Protection saying a contact must be added?
• Anonymous447 May 20, 2025
  I understand that all data will be stored in the corresponding data center nearby, but the decryption key of the data will be stored in the area corresponding to the account. Therefore, I feel that as long as it is displayed in the Apple system, the data will be processed there. As for some people chattering like stress, don't mind
• Anonymous5963 May 20, 2025
  @ Anonymous447 hahaha I think someone is very axial
• Anonymous46 May 20, 2025
  Logically speaking, it is almost impossible for foreign iPhone + foreign id to save keys in Yunnan and Guizhou, otherwise all keys will be missed once foreigners travel to China. Once they are caught, the international reaction can be imagined. It is conceivable that this is devastating to Apple's security reputation. Moreover, at present, the proportion of iPhone in foreign regions in China is already very low, especially because it does not support physical dual-SIM cards and the price is more expensive. Many people are actually unwilling to use foreign machines. So it is reasonable for the Tower to turn a blind eye to these people. But it's hard to say about the ID of the country + foreign region, because foreigners, especially Europe and the United States, hardly buy iPhones in China. The lack of Facetime Audio is a huge debuff in Europe and the United States, and there is currently a tasteless Apple AI. Almost no one will buy iPhones specifically in China. In this case, almost only Chinese people will use the country + foreign ID, and if this device happens to be still in China, it is actually very reasonable for the key to be stored in Yunnan and Guizhou. As for whether there is any security problem in key storage in Yunnan and Guizhou, it is a value issue with few arguments at present, so it will not be discussed. Personally, I don't think it adds any unsafe factors to most people
• Anonymous3073 May 20, 2025
  @ Anonymous1788 If it really reaches the point of betraying national interests, it may be safer to use American services. However, I really don't think about coming back.
• Anonymous12729 May 20, 2025
  The speeches on the previous floors are simply crooked. Every time I encounter this kind of problem, there are always a few replies with such confusing nonsense. The first sentence at the beginning is obviously to avoid domestic censorship. Do you need to personally give people popular science public cloud data security and GJ interests?! I'm off-topic. The account information comes from the iCloud and App Store account areas. As long as it is in the outside area, there is basically no problem. If there is a hole, it is that there are apps downloaded by the country ID on your device. When intercepting the update list, you will actively send your apps list to the server in the country for matching.
• Anonymous704 May 20, 2025
  My understanding and personal practice is: 1. As long as it is an Apple account in a non-national region, it has nothing to do with Yunnan-Guizhou (Guizhou Yunshang). 2. There is no fta on the mobile phone of the Bank of China, and FaceTime video is unlikely to make calls or even impossible in most scenarios. Then voice can only go to the operator. It's not clear now. At least a few years ago, small employees in operators can resell your personal privacy including your call records (cases of sentencing in previous years can be found online). However, fta is relatively private and secure.
• Anonymous1788 May 20, 2025
  @ Anonymous12729 What are you in a hurry? Privacy has been talked about, and censorship has also been talked about. The words "I won't fuck you" are invisible, right? It's an exaggeration for you to be afraid of being censored when buying 🍎. I thought you bought huawei.
• Anonymous12548 May 21, 2025
  Try not to do indescribable things, data is not absolutely safe as long as it is online
• Anonymous1767 May 21, 2025
  Your ID is from that area, just pass it to that area