It turns out that the high-frequency pwm of mbp screen miniled can really hurt your eyes. Do you feel it?
by Poster
May 13, 2025
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After upgrading from the 2015 model to the 2021 model mbp, I found that the screen color is much better, but the corresponding eyes feel uncomfortable after looking at it for a few minutes. Unlike watching the rntina screen of the 15 models, the eyes are relaxed, and the miniled gives people the feeling that it will be forced. Suck your eyes onto the screen, maybe the colors are too bright.
So I searched on the Internet to see if this is an exception (Google, a certain sound, a certain B, a certain book, an), and even v station posted a post, but I couldn't find a specific problem with this screen. When it comes to it, I just talk about how good the color of this screen is.
It wasn't until yesterday that I searched for this question on a whim that I found out from reddit that this seems to be not an exception. Because my English is not good, I didn't search for English before. I didn't expect to help me find foreign websites, so why don't many people discuss this issue in China? Is everyone self-adapting?
https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/qhqlkb/headache_from_new_16_macbook_pro_miniled
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Anonymous2170 May 13, 2025Just talk about what doesn't hurt your eyes, reading hurts your eyes, watching CRT hurts your eyes, watching OLED hurts your eyes, watching miniled hurts your eyes
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Anonymous2171 May 13, 2025I also have a 2015 rmbp (it's really very comfortable), and I'm thinking of upgrading it. Good post and help me
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Poster May 13, 2025@ Anonymous2170 There's no need to scold me like this. Be rational. I did see someone discussing this screen on the external network, but I didn't find much relevant information in China. And I also said that the visual experience of the two screens is different, and the new model is obviously uncomfortable. As a programmer who may spend 12 hours a day facing the computer, he must choose a better screen. It is definitely unrealistic to just talk about watching less screens. As for why I don't connect an external monitor, I specially bought a 16-inch mbp just to use it without an external monitor, so I can take it with me when going out.
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Anonymous2172 May 13, 2025@ Poster Rest your eyes every 2 hours, close your eyes more and look at your phone less during your lunch break, there is currently no solution to the screen hurting your eyes
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Anonymous2173 May 13, 2025@ Anonymous2170 Reading doesn't hurt your eyes. Moreover, things with large quantities and small quantities can't all be grouped together. I bought some pesticides in the vegetables, and I cooked soup with pesticides directly, which definitely can't be equated.
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Poster May 13, 2025@ Anonymous2171 Personally, I feel that the size and weight of the 16-inch mbp is not much different from that of the 15.4-inch mbp, and it can be put in a computer bag. If you don't feel discomfort when looking at your eyes, you can upgrade it. After all, m1pro has been improved too much. I ran the WeChat applet developer tool directly at 99 ℃, and the computer was stuck to death.
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Anonymous888 May 13, 2025miniled is inherently harmful to the eyes. If you look at the miniled screens on the market, there are few eye protection certifications, and basically none of them are labeled with low blue light
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Anonymous2174 May 13, 2025Seamless switching, I haven't felt it after using it for several years. Some people are more sensitive, but most people don't feel it
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Anonymous8732 May 13, 2025This is one reason why it is important for me to choose the 13-inch version of the MacBook. Unfortunately, the last one was out of print in 22 years
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Anonymous2176 May 13, 2025Eye protection certification hahahaha, I have to get lung protection certification for tobacco quickly
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Anonymous2177 May 13, 2025Because I prefer LCD phones, I have read many screen reviews LCD/OLED/Mini-LED Theoretically, OLED is the most eye-harmful and has high contrast ratio. The Mini-LED is moderately eye-damaging and has moderate contrast. LCDs are the most eye-friendly and have poor contrast. However, it still depends on the dimming technology. There is plenty of light during the day or night, and each screen is similar. High-frequency dimming is slightly prone to eye fatigue. Poor light/no light at night, then high-frequency dimming is almost a fatal drawback. Similarly, poor lighting/no light at night, blue light is also very harmful, and the elderly are particularly prone to glaucoma. When I had surgery before, several elderly people who chatted about glaucoma basically liked to play mobile phones at night. Of course, the inducement (main reason) is senile cataract and high intraocular pressure. So, be sure to look at the lights and electronic devices at night.
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Anonymous2178 May 13, 2025Then just talk about pwm: pwm will hurt your eyes, and so will lcd's pwm. miniled and oled are bigger. The only exception is the incoming eye where the ultra-high frequency pwm light source is diffusely reflected through the surface of the article. Using ultra-high frequency pwm in extremely high natural environment brightness can also reduce relative damage.
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Anonymous2179 May 13, 2025Yes, a problem that has been circumvented years ago. Now the only thing that doesn't hurt your eyes is MacBook air. After using the 14-inch and 16-inch pro for half a day, I can't stand it anymore.
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Anonymous2178 May 13, 2025@ Anonymous2177 You need to turn down the brightness when watching your mobile phone at night. Generally, the brightness of your mobile phone is proportional to pwm. The pwm is even lower at low brightness. Few people know and can turn on the night mode + dark mode of the mobile phone. It is prepared for this environment. The elderly don't know what these two are. There are two parts to the damage of blue light: 1. High-energy blue light forcibly penetrates eye cells and damages the eyes; 2. Inhibiting the secretion of melatonin by pineal gland.
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Anonymous2178 May 13, 2025@ Anonymous2178 The direct light source of electronic products has nothing to do with eye protection.
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Anonymous2180 May 13, 2025I have used both the previous mba and the current mini-LED mbp, and I do feel the same way. The latter screen makes the eyes more prone to fatigue and discomfort after looking at it for a long time.
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Anonymous2181 May 13, 2025I will cry after watching OLED for a long time In my mind, OLED and TN hurt the eyes just as much
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Anonymous2182 May 13, 2025It does feel like this. The screen of the 2013 model and later use is not as comfortable as the screen of the 13 model
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Anonymous2183 May 13, 2025I have adapted to use an air for mobile office, mini for office + a 27 LCD, which can avoid miniled for office use. In fact, fortunately, there is a choice on the notebook side, but the mobile phone side is a pit. I am very uncomfortable with OLED. The 14PM on my hand will cause a headache if you look at it for a long time. After switching from 11 to 14PM, it lowered my phone usage time in disguise...
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Poster May 13, 2025@ Anonymous2178 # 12 I feel that the dc dimming of the oled of the mobile phone seems to be fine, but retina doesn't know what kind of screen it is